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UPDATE: Motorcycle Over the Side Reported on Angeles Crest Highway

Possible major injuries reported in crash. Details are still being investigated.

UPDATE, 2:15 p.m.: Authorities reported a second motorcycle crash in the area of Angeles Crest Highway, Sunday afternoon.

The second crash was reported on the right shoulder of the mountain road near Upper Big Tujunga Canyon Road, in the same area as the first reported crash, according to CHP officer Monica Posada.

The most recent reports indicate the second crash victim received major injuries in the solo motorcycle crash, first reported around 12:30 p.m. The crash victim was transported to Huntington Memorial Hospital.

Both incidents were reported by the US Forestry Service, authorities said.

No further details were immediately known about the first crash earlier Sunday.

Previously: Authorities are still on scene of a motorcycle accident on Angeles Crest Highway past Upper Big Tujunga Canyon Road, Sunday morning.

The crash was first reported to authorities before 11 a.m. near mile marker 42, well above the community of Sierra Madre.

The motorcycle was reportedly 50 feet over the side of the road, said Monica Posada of the California Highway Patrol. It is unknown if the motorcyclist was helped to the road by responding emergency personnel, passersby or under the riders own power.

According to scanner reports, Air Rescue 5 from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department called off emergency ground units and tended to the victim. It was unknown where the victim was flown to, or if there were more than one person injured.

This story will continue to be updated as information becomes available.

Geoff May 06, 2012 at 08:07 PM
Wow, how many motorcycle accidents is that so far this year on the Angeles Crest Highway? Air 5 has made two trips over our house today, the second just five minutes ago. (We're between Huntington Hospital and Eaton Canyon.) I'm guessing the first was for this accident. I wonder what the second one was for. We'll probably hear soon.
Revvell May 06, 2012 at 10:01 PM
That's not ALL they do. I used to ride up there a lot! Never raced, never died. It was a lovely way to just be out on a sunny day; to take a break from work, etc. People race and die on streets/roads/highways all the time in cars and on motorcycles. How about we close them all and ride bicycles and take public transportation? Then, when bicycles collide ~ or buses and trains, you'll have something else to talk about.
Ryan Reza May 06, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Why are people allowed to leave their homes? They just tie up precious resources. But seriously, motor40, I have been going up the crest for over 14 years and I am still here. Go find a little fascist country in which to live and see how you like it when people take away your rights to do what you enjoy. The only times I have crashed, drivers in cars made illegal maneuvers (One ran a red light and the other made a u turn across a double yellow.) I ride knowing I could be hit anytime. I have health and life insurance. Luckily I haven't needed it.
Brian Heyman May 07, 2012 at 05:19 AM
I'm also a motorcyclist and ride the Crest from La Canada Wrightwood and back regularly. SR-2 is a challenging mountain road for all motorists, not just motorcyclists. It is safe to drive or ride if you observe the speed limit, the condition of the road (rocks, dirt, animals, etc.) and ride or drive within your ability. While motorcycle crashes on ACH always make news, there are many more crashes involving cars and trucks, which don't make news. So it may seem that motorcyclists crash all ths time up there. I'd like to see the statistics for all vehicle crashes on the Crest. Perhaps a reporter from the Patch can collect the data on all crashes which occur on SR-2 from the CHP, CalTrans and other agencies and write an investigative report about it. The facts would certainly help inform the discussion
Geoff May 07, 2012 at 06:20 AM
Well, that 2:15 pm update answers my second question!
CHP Officer May 07, 2012 at 07:46 AM
Brian, no doubt you're right about there being more car crashes than motorcycle collisions but there is one glaring difference. Motorcycle crashes usually result in major injuries or fatalities. Occupants in car crashes usually walk away uninjured. But you're right, we ALL need to drive safer up on the crest. If you want statistics from CHP go here: http://iswitrs.chp.ca.gov/Reports/jsp/userLogin.jsp
yeahian May 07, 2012 at 01:26 PM
Oh I hate this but for once and probably the only time ever I am in complete agreement with Revell.
yeahian May 07, 2012 at 01:58 PM
i only agree with comments prior to this How about we close them all and ride bicycles and take public transportation? Then, when bicycles collide ~ or buses and trains, you'll have something else to talk about.
Star McCain May 07, 2012 at 02:44 PM
I went up to see the sunset/moon rise on Mt. Wilson on Saturday noght. Coming down Angeles Crest Hwy in the dark, I passed several (I'm guessing 30 or so) bicyclists riding up the mountain. Some were ridings in groups, some were individuals, some had lights on front or back, and a few had NO LIGHTS AT ALL. Talk about a death wish and endangerment to other drivers!! I was freaking out.
Mike May 07, 2012 at 02:52 PM
The amount of motorcycles on these mountain roads (GMR, SR2, Angeles Crest, etc) is way above normal. Most of these guys riding believe they are on some kind of road track that is open to them only. The CHP can make a living just for writing these guys up. They just keep coming and either dying or getting seriously injured. Once the word gets out that it's being patrolled the motorcyclists move to another area where it resumes to business as usual. Every single weekend there's crashes and it's like no where else. I have no problem with people riding for fun but not at the expense of others. You can't prevent people from driving this but with a focused enforcement of traffic laws this will stop but they'll have to remain here for a few years to put a stop to it.
anthony "aka eleche" May 07, 2012 at 03:19 PM
People die everyday no matter where you're at. Not all motorcycle riders are the same. Most motorcycle accident happen do to rookies that want to keep up with experience riders.
VStar06 Sofia May 07, 2012 at 03:25 PM
I hate that there are so many idiots that ruin it for the rest of us. I too ride on many roads up and down so cal and don't ride like an idiot. Unfortunately its not just motorcycles causing these problem but everyone is always so quick to blame us.
Christina Marshall May 07, 2012 at 03:33 PM
The one thing that is NOT mentioned in these comments... Most of these motorcylists that are riding the canyon are using plates! They ride at high speeds and use plates on their knees to take the turns... and this is what needs to be stopped! I rode these mountains for years and never had a problem, it's a wonderful way to spend the day!
John Wayne's Honda May 07, 2012 at 03:47 PM
everyone on a motorcycle should be put against the wall - problem solved
Steve Lamb May 07, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Hell has frozen over into a solid block of ice. i totally agree with Revell. Still one should not ride faster than one's guardian angels can fly.....Or everyone should take a physics class before they get a motorcycle license...That will scare the living hell out of you! (Cured me of Motorcycles entirely and even got me to stop doing four wheel drifts, I figured I could only win in a roulette game with the forces of Nature so many times...)
Natalie May 07, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Many bikers ride up to Newcomb's Ranch in the high forest and down a beer or two. The place is crowded at weekends. Is this a safe thing to do, considering the dangers of negotiating the Angeles Crest on two wheels?
Revvell May 07, 2012 at 04:24 PM
Thanks Yeeha and that's Revvell.
Revvell May 07, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Uhhh, it's still Revvell and it's still real. Jeez it's cold in this ice.
Revvell May 07, 2012 at 04:29 PM
No Natalie, it's not. It's tough enough beong conscious on two feet, never mind two wheels after imbibing yet, it is what it is! People will drink, toke, drive and then brag about it.... they're called immature and ignorant.
Ryan Reza May 07, 2012 at 05:06 PM
"everyone on a motorcycle should be put against the wall - problem solved. " Wow. I'll meet you at the flagpole after school.
Steve May 07, 2012 at 10:49 PM
This is my 31st year driving the crest, (10 yrs on a bike), seen my share of accidents, yes, some riders go a bit fast but so do autos,bicyclists, thats another story, they all crash, people get hurt. What I dont understand is the lack of resources on the mountain to shorten the response time to accidents and the lack of enforcement on the hill, speeding as well as impeding traffic (it goes both ways).
Kristen S May 08, 2012 at 08:18 PM
A good solution to this is to patrol the area for speeders. The people who want to enjoy the crest will do so and the people that have a death wish will move on.... If it is an argument of resources, the money saved on the rescue services could be put toward patrols and then hike up the price of a moving violation on the crest to also help pay. I am a cyclist and refuse to ride up ACH...too much risk...not enough return.
desmcgrath May 19, 2012 at 06:30 PM
The racists comments are absurd. Responsible rides/riders cause no harm, use less gasoline, are cleaner with lower emissions and pollution than cars, plus cause less traffic and gridlock. There are indeed more risks with motorcycle crashes than cars, but I would also guess motorcycle crashes injured mainly the rider, as opposed to car crashes that tend to hurt all others involved, be them pedestrian, riders or drivers.
Daniel June 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM
I am the person that got air lifted ti huntington hospital... & I was not racing!!!!!! I was going 40 mph & hit an oil slick!!!!!! so if you wanna blame someone blame the dumb ass that went up there & blew their motor & left a gallon of oil on the road!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish I new who it was,so I could beat them with my amputated leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Revvell June 13, 2012 at 11:13 PM
The only time I laid my bike down was ~ on oil. Had some bruising, tore up the connective tissue down my sternum but, kept my legs. Friends were out riding on a lovely day in Arizona. Car came around a corner, hit 2 out of 4 of them. 1 died, 1 lost a leg. I stopped riding because the leg thing scared me and all I could see were car bumpers at knee height. Sorry to hear about your leg, Daniel. Stay strong, dude.
detrich June 13, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Mike> We're very sorry to hear about your accident and hope that you are doing better... =( Whereabouts ACH did this happen, and was the motor oil spilled over the road at a corner of a turn? You have our deepest empathy, and we all hope that you can make a speedy recovery and adjust as best you can to this terrible, life-changing accident... With regards to all the negative comments about motorbikes, some observations are true, but many are just biased generalizations. Not ALL motorcyclists are inherently bad and unsafe. A safe vehicle operator- whether be it on 2 wheels or 4- is all the same. And, that is for that individual to follow the speed limit, concentrate on driving/ riding, and operate the vehicle within one's abilities while observing/ adhering to safety conditions of the road. There are easily just as many speeding sports cars and trucks up in ACH that are driving very aggressively and often crossing the double yellow lines! In addition, for every motorcycle or speeding passenger car, there are 3 times as many cars or suv's constantly driving 15MPH -BELOW- the posted speed limit, braking at every minor curve, -completely oblivious- to other traffic on the road, talking/ giggling with passengers in their cars, and refusing to use turn outs... Are these motorists making the road any safer either? I think not either...
corona June 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM
I was one of the guys that crashed at may 6 and no i wasent racing just lost control after going over area covered by gravel that should have been cleaned up weeks ago after the snow had dried up i do want to thank the helicopter rescue for getting me to hospital as fast as they did i had many broken bones but amazingly already been walking on my leg and just dealing with broken ribs and lower back i am sorry for the guy crashed 10min before me i was told he lost a leg my prayers are with him i wish him a fast recovery
detrich June 18, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Speedy recovery to you too Corona... :) I was just in ACH this past weekend, and on Saturday I witnessed a white Mercedes driving extremely aggressively going up ACH. I wish I had gotten the license plate, but he was driving much too fast for me to take it down... The white Mercedes got very impatient following a very slow car in front of him- ie one of those oblivious/ slow drivers that was driving way below the speed limit and completely oblivious to the fact that 3 or 4 cars were piling up behind and not using a turn out. Finally, the Mercedes got fed up and pulled across the double yellow in a blind rage AT A BLIND CORNER, and he nearly hit a motorcycle going down ACH head on. This is the type of driver that CHP and Forest Services needs to go after. I think it's ok for a car to pass another one on a straight-away when it's visible and clear in both directions, but ABSOLUTELY NEVER on or at a blind corner. He could have easily killed someone without even knowing it. This is also why "slow cars" are hazardous- because they indirectly cause and bring out this type of behavior and aggravation among other drivers that get stuck behind them.
Citzen July 17, 2012 at 07:57 AM
You are dead wrong about emissions. "Emissions standards for motorcycles are, accordingly, more forgiving than they are for cars and will most likely stay that way since motorcycles account for such a small portion of vehicles on the road. The Air Resources Board estimates there are 600,000 motorcycles in active use in California, which account for less than 1% of vehicle miles traveled in the state. Those 600,000 motorcycles, however, account for 13% of the state's hydrocarbon emissions from passenger vehicle." More specifically, level of emissions spewing from on-road motorcycles and scooters. In California, such bikes make up 3.6% of registered vehicles and 1% of vehicle miles traveled, yet they account for 10% of passenger vehicles' smog-forming emissions in the state. In fact, the average motorbike is about 10 times more polluting per mile than a passenger car, light truck or SUV, according to a California Air Resources Board comparison of emissions-compliant vehicles.
Johnlakaaz February 13, 2013 at 01:48 PM
I'm a new rider and been there more than four times, noticed many good riders, respectful, and cautious, I do pull to the side many many times even though riding at speed limit. Angeles Crest is about nature, care for our back yard, and race tracks are much safer for fast motorcycles. Enjoy the nature not the machine, bicycles should ride with peace of mind, loosing body parts are permanent, for the God's sake enjoy your life to the fullest with safety in mind. Extensive joy is abusive and that is not called fun.

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